Comments on: The Philosophy of the Personal Finance Community is Shifting https://fourpillarfreedom.com/the-philosophy-of-the-personal-finance-community-is-shifting/ Sharing insights on how to grow wealth and gain freedom. Mon, 21 Oct 2019 20:09:53 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.1 By: Zach @ Four Pillar Freedom https://fourpillarfreedom.com/the-philosophy-of-the-personal-finance-community-is-shifting/#comment-16400 Fri, 15 Jun 2018 00:46:02 +0000 https://fourpillarfreedom.com/?p=30430#comment-16400 In reply to That Frugal Pharmacist.

I think the freedom to take time off when needed is something many Americans desire and are likely missing in their day job. It’s a great reason to pursue financial flexibility – not to quit working entirely, but to have the option to take time off when needed.

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By: That Frugal Pharmacist https://fourpillarfreedom.com/the-philosophy-of-the-personal-finance-community-is-shifting/#comment-15546 Mon, 11 Jun 2018 22:46:04 +0000 https://fourpillarfreedom.com/?p=30430#comment-15546 Good post!

I agree that the lack of work isn’t the key. It’s the financial independence. I think I have even seen studies discussing the potential health risks of early retirement, with nothing else to do. People lose their sense of purpose, and then their sense of self worth, or lose the social circle they didn’t think of as a social circle (though it is). The key to a happy long life is meaningful relationships and keeping an active mind.

I would feel much less inclined to quit my day job if it left me the freedom to take time off whenever I wanted or needed. Indeed, my idea of early retirement is purely per diem work, hoping I can find enough to keep me busy and give me purpose, but to be financially independent enough that I am ok if there isn’t any work available for a while. Of course, I’ve also added the blogging portion to try and develop some creative (and social) outlets. If they make some money that’s a bonus.

In my personal life, I feel more productive and useful when I “work.” My husband on the other hand, with a large property to take care of and being a handy-person finds plenty of purpose in tending to the home.

It can look different for everyone. But yes, the key is being positioned to do what brings you joy and purpose.

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By: My Early Retirement Journey https://fourpillarfreedom.com/the-philosophy-of-the-personal-finance-community-is-shifting/#comment-15517 Mon, 11 Jun 2018 21:15:38 +0000 https://fourpillarfreedom.com/?p=30430#comment-15517 Flow is also the theme of the Stanford Design your Life seminars.
Did a similar post recently: https://www.myearlyretirementjourney.com/2018/05/how-design-thinking-can-inspire-your.html

Great minds think a like!

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By: Kirsty https://fourpillarfreedom.com/the-philosophy-of-the-personal-finance-community-is-shifting/#comment-15490 Mon, 11 Jun 2018 19:07:17 +0000 https://fourpillarfreedom.com/?p=30430#comment-15490 I’m not even sure that the FI part is essential if you have work you love. We are well on the way to FI but we are not going to get there anytime soon because I work part time in a low paid job that I love. And the plan is to have enough flexibility in the next year for husband to do the same. To me it’s the journey not the destination.

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By: Steveark https://fourpillarfreedom.com/the-philosophy-of-the-personal-finance-community-is-shifting/#comment-15483 Mon, 11 Jun 2018 18:23:18 +0000 https://fourpillarfreedom.com/?p=30430#comment-15483 Well said! I moved straight into side gig consulting after I left an extremely demanding job. I do not miss the old 9 to 5 but I’m glad that I was able to preserve some of the fun parts of working with my consulting roles. So far after three years it is all very good! And having several days off most weeks is pretty nice.

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By: Jeannie https://fourpillarfreedom.com/the-philosophy-of-the-personal-finance-community-is-shifting/#comment-15472 Mon, 11 Jun 2018 17:39:12 +0000 https://fourpillarfreedom.com/?p=30430#comment-15472 Very true. I’m seeing a softer more encompassing attitude also, more of the ‘Personal finance is personal so take advice given with a grain of salt’ attitude.
I remember reading a comic on joy/happiness once, about how one might find work satisfying, and hence worth doing. It doesn’t necessarily bring happiness, but one finds that work worthwhile anyway.

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By: anonymous https://fourpillarfreedom.com/the-philosophy-of-the-personal-finance-community-is-shifting/#comment-15458 Mon, 11 Jun 2018 15:59:26 +0000 https://fourpillarfreedom.com/?p=30430#comment-15458 The community needs a better term than FIRE. Ive seen FIOR (optional retirement). Ive seen FinanceBuff say something like FI then Pivot. The “retirement” word is too loaded and has to be swapped out.

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By: Tom @ Dividends Diversify https://fourpillarfreedom.com/the-philosophy-of-the-personal-finance-community-is-shifting/#comment-15451 Mon, 11 Jun 2018 15:26:56 +0000 https://fourpillarfreedom.com/?p=30430#comment-15451 It just makes sense Zach. Everyone needs to have some purposeful activity(s) in their life. The key is to have the financial freedom to choose it on ones own terms. Tom

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By: Mike @ Balanced Dividends https://fourpillarfreedom.com/the-philosophy-of-the-personal-finance-community-is-shifting/#comment-15424 Mon, 11 Jun 2018 13:43:05 +0000 https://fourpillarfreedom.com/?p=30430#comment-15424 Nice summary, Zach.

I’m no where near ready to FIRE if I wanted to yet – at least at the lifestyle level that Mrs. BD and I would like to maintain. The FI part is also more achievable with viewing the RE part as optional or perhaps event just a nice-to-have (ok fine, a very nice-to-have).

Thanks again. – Mike

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By: Lily | The Frugal Gene https://fourpillarfreedom.com/the-philosophy-of-the-personal-finance-community-is-shifting/#comment-15407 Mon, 11 Jun 2018 12:37:42 +0000 https://fourpillarfreedom.com/?p=30430#comment-15407 I signed on when everyone started going the RE optional route and that’s what appealed to me. The pact with my husband is after he retires, he build something on his own and be tech support for me. I need that meaning there for me to feel useful and validated.

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