Comments on: Should You Move to a New City to Increase Your Income? https://fourpillarfreedom.com/should-you-move-to-a-new-city-to-increase-your-income/ Sharing insights on how to grow wealth and gain freedom. Mon, 21 Oct 2019 19:32:47 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.1 By: Financial Orchid https://fourpillarfreedom.com/should-you-move-to-a-new-city-to-increase-your-income/#comment-38863 Mon, 07 Jan 2019 09:38:59 +0000 https://fourpillarfreedom.com/?p=32373#comment-38863 So wise to consider the bottom line.
It’s worth noting tho for young ppl just out of school, taking a yr or 2 as a gap year to experience those HCOL cities (NY, HK, SF, London) is totally worthwhile too in terms of the intangible experiences, while opportunity cost is low. Those unique experiences shouldn’t be discounted either esp for ppl who want to experience that @least once in a lifetime.

I spent a yr in Hong Kong when I came out of school. While I made close to nothing, it significantly impacted how my future path forward. I’m so glad I did it even if it deferred wealth building by a yr or 2. You know, fun jobs when living in a shack is still bearable at a younger age =)

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By: B at Fire The Boss https://fourpillarfreedom.com/should-you-move-to-a-new-city-to-increase-your-income/#comment-37632 Mon, 03 Dec 2018 06:01:09 +0000 https://fourpillarfreedom.com/?p=32373#comment-37632 In reply to Zach.

Correct, while Manhattan is stupidly expensive to live in (rent alone is twice my total monthly expenses in The Netherlands, or about four times rent-only), the salary I will be looking at is also significantly higher. Even though my savings percentage might not be the 40% it is right now, if I can double the savings amount it’s worth it. Plus, I get to live in the coolest city on the planet. Definitely looking into doing this in the next couple of years. I only have to convince the girlfriend now… 😉

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By: Zach https://fourpillarfreedom.com/should-you-move-to-a-new-city-to-increase-your-income/#comment-37576 Sat, 01 Dec 2018 13:30:46 +0000 https://fourpillarfreedom.com/?p=32373#comment-37576 In reply to B at Fire The Boss.

You nailed it – the AMOUNT of income you save is more important than the PERCENTAGE of income you save because you can use those dollars to buy more freedom in a LCOL area once you decide to stop working. Manhattan is one of the most expensive cities in the U.S. but I imagine it compensates residents with fairly high salaries, depending on the industry you’re working in.

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By: Zach https://fourpillarfreedom.com/should-you-move-to-a-new-city-to-increase-your-income/#comment-37568 Sat, 01 Dec 2018 13:20:21 +0000 https://fourpillarfreedom.com/?p=32373#comment-37568 In reply to Matt Spillar @ Spills Spot.

I really like the strategy of living in a pricey city just to earn a high salary for a few years. After all, it’s not about your savings rate as much as the actual amount you’re able to save each year, since when you move to a lower cost of living area, you’ll still have all those dollars in your bank account.

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By: Zach https://fourpillarfreedom.com/should-you-move-to-a-new-city-to-increase-your-income/#comment-37567 Sat, 01 Dec 2018 13:18:42 +0000 https://fourpillarfreedom.com/?p=32373#comment-37567 In reply to Kyle @ NYPFGuy.

I love that strategy – living in a cheap place with low expenses despite earning a higher income. That’s the path to real wealth-building. Also kudos to you for finding joy in things that are free (the outdoors, the beach, farmers market, etc.), that’s one of the best ways to keep spending low!

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By: B at Fire The Boss https://fourpillarfreedom.com/should-you-move-to-a-new-city-to-increase-your-income/#comment-37466 Wed, 28 Nov 2018 20:00:01 +0000 https://fourpillarfreedom.com/?p=32373#comment-37466 I would seriously consider moving to a place to earn more money for a couple years before moving back. As you said, in general your FIRE path is dictated by your savings rate, not your savings amount. But if you plan to move back to a LCOL area, the amount is more important than the percentage, since it buys you more “life” in your LCOL area.

I’m from The Netherlands, but am considering (loosely) to move to Manhattan, NYC in the next couple years, for two or three years. The main reason is the life experience of living in a metropole for a couple years, but it would also accelerate my FIRE.

Doing quick back of the envelope math, my savings rate would probably be a bit lower than it is here in The Netherlands, but the pure euro or dollar amount saved would be higher in Manhattan, and that is money that I would bring back home when I return.

Interesting stuff for sure!

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By: Matt Spillar @ Spills Spot https://fourpillarfreedom.com/should-you-move-to-a-new-city-to-increase-your-income/#comment-37250 Fri, 23 Nov 2018 22:27:39 +0000 https://fourpillarfreedom.com/?p=32373#comment-37250 This is a great analysis Zach, well done. Being that I live in the Bay Area, this topic is very relevant to my day-to-day life. The cost of living here is obviously brutal, and as you explained, even though the salaries are higher there are many times when you’re not coming out ahead. There are many benefits to living in the Bay Area including the weather and the centralized location to everything (beach, snow, major cities, hiking, etc). I also think the benefit of how much opportunity being available here, with so many incredible companies so close together, is even more important than the high salaries.

I really like the strategy of living in a big city to build your career and then moving somewhere else for cheaper cost of living. We’re still in the Bay Area mainly because of family and friends, but this career opportunity is another reason. Our plan is ultimately to stick it out here for a few more years and then move a few hours north to a cheaper city. This will lead to lower salaries, but I think even higher quality of life.

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By: Kyle @ NYPFGuy https://fourpillarfreedom.com/should-you-move-to-a-new-city-to-increase-your-income/#comment-37223 Fri, 23 Nov 2018 14:33:10 +0000 https://fourpillarfreedom.com/?p=32373#comment-37223 Great analysis on this topic. It definitely depends on a lot of different factors.

One thing I did when I moved to Sydney was to change my expectations compared to when I lived in Chicago. In Sydney I had a higher income along with higher cost of living, however, I changed my expectations to keep my savings rate and savings numbers higher than they would’ve been in Chicago. I lived in an un-renovated 1-bedroom apartment, rarely went out to eat and spent most time just enjoying the outdoors. So my living situation didn’t seem as “nice” as Chicago, but I was living by the beach with a farmers markets a few blocks away.

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