Comments on: The Cobra Effect and the Paradox of Saving Money vs. Accruing Happiness https://fourpillarfreedom.com/the-cobra-effect-and-the-paradox-of-saving-money-vs-accruing-happiness/ Sharing insights on how to grow wealth and gain freedom. Mon, 21 Oct 2019 19:52:48 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.1 By: Karl J Strube https://fourpillarfreedom.com/the-cobra-effect-and-the-paradox-of-saving-money-vs-accruing-happiness/#comment-31134 Tue, 09 Oct 2018 23:17:21 +0000 https://fourpillarfreedom.com/?p=31024#comment-31134 In reply to Liz @ Splurging on Freedom.

Hi Liz,

So many factors go into this, but it sounds like you’re making some great moves. Steady W2 employment can provide an awesome base toward FI. Self-employment has bigger potentials and downfalls, depending on the nature of the work you’ll do and how long it takes you to become profitable.

No need to stay all the way until FI–I didn’t. My W2 industry lit my fire, but my then-employer was toxic, so two years ago I decided to venture out on my own and start my own accounting business, taxes during season and consulting the rest of the year. It slowed down our path to FI, but we’re so much happier.

One caveat, don’t leave because you’re unhappy at this moment. Resign in neutral times–if possible. I was given the advice to make big decisions slowly under HALT (whenever you’re hungry, angry, lonely or tired) circumstances.

I can’t regret my ten W2 years (only 2 at that last place): they gave me the expertise and credibility to go out on my own, and a great base start on our FI journey (that I only discovered 4 years ago). I hope that your current W2 job, even though it isn’t in your passion zone, is giving you some skillset that will enhance your future entrepreneurial ventures. Best Wishes!

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By: Zach https://fourpillarfreedom.com/the-cobra-effect-and-the-paradox-of-saving-money-vs-accruing-happiness/#comment-30073 Thu, 09 Aug 2018 11:04:15 +0000 https://fourpillarfreedom.com/?p=31024#comment-30073 In reply to Retire Before Dad.

Always happy to share your writing, RBD! Keep churning out great stuff. And I’m looking forward to meeting you at FinCon as well! Let the countdown begin.

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By: Zach https://fourpillarfreedom.com/the-cobra-effect-and-the-paradox-of-saving-money-vs-accruing-happiness/#comment-30071 Thu, 09 Aug 2018 11:01:41 +0000 https://fourpillarfreedom.com/?p=31024#comment-30071 In reply to Kyle @ NYPFGuy.

I first heard Sivers say that quote on a Tim Ferriss Podcast and it has stuck with me ever since. I’ve found it to be an effective strategy!

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By: Retire Before Dad https://fourpillarfreedom.com/the-cobra-effect-and-the-paradox-of-saving-money-vs-accruing-happiness/#comment-30069 Thu, 09 Aug 2018 02:48:12 +0000 https://fourpillarfreedom.com/?p=31024#comment-30069 Zach,
I enjoyed the story of the Cobra Effect. Definitely applies to some modern issues, especially in personal finance. Looking forward to meeting you at FinCon. Thanks for the recent shares.
-RBD

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By: Kyle @ NYPFGuy https://fourpillarfreedom.com/the-cobra-effect-and-the-paradox-of-saving-money-vs-accruing-happiness/#comment-30068 Thu, 09 Aug 2018 02:15:03 +0000 https://fourpillarfreedom.com/?p=31024#comment-30068 Great quote from Derek Sivers! I like to employ that strategy as well

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By: Liz @ Splurging on Freedom https://fourpillarfreedom.com/the-cobra-effect-and-the-paradox-of-saving-money-vs-accruing-happiness/#comment-29914 Wed, 08 Aug 2018 05:35:35 +0000 https://fourpillarfreedom.com/?p=31024#comment-29914 Hey Zach, this is a really interesting post. I love your posts on happiness and the philosophy of life. They really make me think.

A couple years ago, I made the decision to work in an office even though I had an entrepreneurial streak. I felt like a 9-to-5 corporate job would be the fastest thing to help rack up a huge cushion of savings before venturing out to chase my dreams. In my bid to save as much as possible, I’ve made myself a little miserable at my job. Sometimes I wonder whether I’ll regret spending these few years working a job that doesn’t mean much to me.

It’s interesting how the cobra effect ties with this as well – by trying to attain a financial foundation and to ultimately secure happiness, I’m unhappy at the current moment. But what gets me through the day is that my paycheck is stable, and that I’ve only got a couple of years left on my timeline. (I’m going to quit my job before reaching FI.) A little sacrifice for a decent financial foundation. What do you think about this?

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By: Buckeyecub https://fourpillarfreedom.com/the-cobra-effect-and-the-paradox-of-saving-money-vs-accruing-happiness/#comment-29832 Tue, 07 Aug 2018 20:39:58 +0000 https://fourpillarfreedom.com/?p=31024#comment-29832 This strategy works when you have the money, but should be used carefully if it means debt. I wish I could have attended wedding of college friend but due to expense had to decline. I would have needed to take on credit card debt to go. I was in school at the time and while I regret not attending it was the correct decision.

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By: Simple Money Man https://fourpillarfreedom.com/the-cobra-effect-and-the-paradox-of-saving-money-vs-accruing-happiness/#comment-29817 Tue, 07 Aug 2018 18:09:33 +0000 https://fourpillarfreedom.com/?p=31024#comment-29817 How about a Modified YOLO approach? 🙂

You only live once, but be wise because life is long!

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By: Zach https://fourpillarfreedom.com/the-cobra-effect-and-the-paradox-of-saving-money-vs-accruing-happiness/#comment-29812 Tue, 07 Aug 2018 17:42:10 +0000 https://fourpillarfreedom.com/?p=31024#comment-29812 In reply to Michelle.

Thanks for the correction Michelle, you’re right, that’s who I meant 🙂 I’ll correct that typo

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By: Zach https://fourpillarfreedom.com/the-cobra-effect-and-the-paradox-of-saving-money-vs-accruing-happiness/#comment-29811 Tue, 07 Aug 2018 17:41:13 +0000 https://fourpillarfreedom.com/?p=31024#comment-29811 In reply to APurpleLife.

I think the fact that you rarely feel a “HELL YEAH” is the point of Sivers’ approach – by saying “no” to most things, you have the availability to say “yes” to the “HELL YEAH” categories 🙂

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